In a late 2004 interview with Noah Thomson for the 2007 HBO documentary Children of God: Lost and Found, Davida Kelley described how it was "perfectly normal" at the time for Karen Zerby to have sex with her own son. In a telephone interview conducted at the same time, Rodriguez declined to talk about this in any detail but noted that "twenty something years" of "abusing and raping little children" was more than just a "mistake" they could apologize for and expect to go away.